Ajuda na classe HE

E ae,

galera, eu sempre afirmei que eu era noob pra algumas coisas... pois eh, jah faz dias q eu cheguei a conclusao q jogar de archer nao eh pra mim!

Tanto isso eh verdade, q eu levei mais tempo pra upar minha sub HE pro lvl 71 do q pra colocar meus buffers no lvl 70... =(

Ai, queria q alguem com experiencia como archer me desse umas dicas de como jogar com essa classe... Ateh agora, to tendo dificuldade em controlar a camera, as skills e fazer o char correr...

Eu sempre vi a galera jogando de archer da seguinte forma:
o cara vai lah no inimigo hita e retorna. Assim fica mantendo uma distancia grande do inimigo...

Hj, tentei correr atras de 1 spellsinger, porra o cara tinha mais speed q meu HE... O.o

Bem, quem puder me dar dicas fico feliz.

Abraços,
Pholiver

Nao usa skills, so stun de veis em quando.
Eu uso +5dex-5con dyes.
Wind Walk+Song of Wind pra speed. Buffs> Focus, hunter, death whisper, fury, fire, haste, etc... Eu nunca usaba Might ne warrior...O HE tem p.atck de mais. E prefiero outros buffs defensivos.
Nao sei q mais, o Axamo tem mais exp q eu jogando como HE.

Edit> Mach did this message, i was in Kents house

Concordo com o Mach... tem q beneficiar speed.

Stun -> Bate -> Corre _>stun -> bate -> corre...

Se estiver em pvp, double shot ajuda bastrante depois de um stun.

Em casos criticosque voce foi pego de surpresa ou que nao entrou nenhum criticop e seu HP baixou da metade = Dash

corre, da o vaza, e vai enchendo o HP e/ou CP com poçoes, volta e começa tudo denovo.

Com sorte voce vai encaixar uns 2 criticos e o mané vai Down down down...

Manhas que voce vai ter que pegar... andar com a camera bem distante e mais acima do char/chares do que atras, o dificil q tem q acostumar eh conseguir pegar target com a camera no alto, mas vc acostuma.

O problema eh quando voce se encontra em lugares fechados, tipo catacumba, q essa tecnica de bater e correr fica mto dificil de fazer pq por causa do teto nao da pra colocar a camera la em cima e se movimentar pra frente e pra tras com a camera na horizontal eh uma merda...

Mas eu mesmo nunca joguei MUITO de archer... tenho uma arqueira d.elf no lvl 74 e essa era a estrategia q eu usava sempre tanto em PVE quanto PVP... normalmente dava certo ^^

Abraços.

Hmm, vlw a ajuda...

vao postando + dicas pq ajudam futuros players q entrarem no clan... =)

eh hj eu tava vendo o pessoal lutando lah em BS... ai cheguei nessas conclusoes:

- o pessoal tah full buffs defesa, todos os songs e dances contra dano de mago: aqua,fire etc....
- o pessoal fica 8 min. no maximo, pq tem q voltar e pegar COV...

no final das contas, o Lineage 2 ficou meio descaracterizado... =(

Abraços,
Pholiver

Pois eh Ruiva, tbm axei isso!!
Ao meu ver, virou um server fast PVP^^,
Vc chega ao "extremo" mto facil....

actually..no need of double shot (when full buffed)
a crit will deal more damage and it comes out faster

Its true, but I like double shots because they are certain high damage.

Criticals depend on luck, even thou full buff the crit rate is righ, it may not happen when u want.

I think that when PVP'ing tankers double shot is a must.

when pvping a good tanker....
fleeing/running away is a must

ALWAYS have attack on shortcut bar, then macro cp pots (use cp pot, use greater cp pot, use cp pot, use greater cp pot), then quick healing pots, i have those on f1(attack) f2(cp macro) f3(quick healing) f4(stun).

-PVE: hit mob run, hit mob, when the mob is going to reach u stun, run hit mob, always keep distance. About running: target the mob then change the camera to the opposite side, attack (click f1) run, attack, run, when the mob reachs u stun, run to a certeain distance and repeat till the mob dies.


-PVP:
ALWAYS ALWAYS give the first hit. I like to make a normal attck then stun. Then use the same strategy as the mobs hit run hit run. If they're in big group attck one and run, normally only one follows u so easy kill.

If u get attcked first use dash run away from the range of the attacks while using f2 and f3 (cp and quick heal) when u got recovered enough stun and start hitting.

Against a mistique: -sps and archmage: stun hit stun hit, always be away from him, cuz if u get canceled u r dead
-necro: stun necro, kill summon, start killing necro
-the rest: always keep em stunned and save ur distance

Against an archer: Hit, use stun if it gets stunned continue hitting if not inmediatly use ultimate evasion, if the archer uses ultimate evasion use only skills cuz ull miss normal attcks.
Against a dagger: same strategy but UE is not so necessary
Against a tank: try to stun, hit hit hit, keep always ur distance if u r rooted use UE and continue hitting
Againts any other fighters: remember always to keep ur distance, give always a normal hit then a stun when u r surprissing ur enemy. If u get surprised run, try to stun ur enemy recover cp and hp and come back (that will give u two shots to make damage and if the target gets stunned it gives u at least two more)

Use of dash: when escaping and when making a hit and run (when u hit a target of a large group to lure him)
*Never use skills (only stun) unless ur target has made UE, 1/4 of my shots are crit, i rather take my chances trying to make a crit than using skills.
*always have vicious stance activated and u may choose if use focus skill mastery or not (lvl 77)

dyes: +4 dex/ - 4 con
optional: +4 str/ - 4 con


Buffs: song of wind, song of hunter, dance of fury, dance of fire, death whisper, focus, haste, wind walk, guidance, bless the body, song of warding, magic barrier, shield, might, greater shield, rapid shot, one space for pot/debuff/dash or ue,PoF

According to situation u might use two of the following:
-noblesse
-unholy resistance/elemental protection (depends on ur space, u might have one or both)
-agility (if u r going against an archer)
-resist stun ( if ur going against someone with the ability of stunning)
-song of earth
-song of vitality
-song of invocation
-dance of warrior (i dont like it very much)

To finish i want to say that the archer pk...a lot...because he needs to make the first hit to assure a victory and sometimes with the first two hits ur target is dead so u need to constanly be making quest of cleanning pk.

ahh yes...i forgot the use of skills when opponent uses UE
as for tanks...don't bother...really.....unless u want to waste lots of time....

Yeah... believe Axamo, he knows it all ^^

versiani escreveu:

Yeah... believe Axamo, he knows it all ^^

we know ...

thx friends...


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Pholiver

versiani escreveu:

Yeah... believe Axamo, he knows it all ^^

So spoke josheph the great Oo

Jamais vou ler akilu tudo em ingles!

axamo escreveu:

Against a tank: try to stun, hit hit hit, keep always ur distance if u r rooted use UE and continue hitting

Uhmm...agaisnt a tank, ur screwed
Is very hard to stun a fokcing tank (High Con, specially humans) If u get rooted...u could use UE..but ask axamo what happened when he and hellmiutpvped me 2x1 in Colisseum...

Tank uses skills like the pre lvl 20, and tribunal, which hits alwasy, plus stun to give time to the other 2 skills cool down...with a tank, you pretty much ruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun